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triskellian ([personal profile] triskellian) wrote2005-02-24 10:43 am
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My favourite website

I don't really do 'favourite' things for most categories of thing, but it occured to me yesterday that I do have a favourite website: CSS Zen Garden.

It's not the site I visit most often (that's LJ), or the one I find most directly useful (Google), but it's my favourite. It's a piece of glorious CSS evangelism, demonstrating what's possible with CSS-based web design. It's effectively a one-page site, with many different stylesheets, all working on exactly the same static HTML document, and achieving wildly different layout effects. The home page remains the same, but there's an often-changing selection of user-submitted stylesheets, of which my current favourite is Museum (remember, that's exactly the same HTML as the homepage I linked above - it's just the stylesheet that's different). I go back to it over and over, looking at favourite designs, getting ideas from the CSS, and being re-enthused about the whole thing, and it gives me so much joy that I want to share it with you ;-)

Now, repay the favour. What's your favourite website, and why?
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[identity profile] ar-gemlad.livejournal.com 2005-02-24 11:22 am (UTC)(link)
Zen Garden is great! I had to break my beautiful CSS to make a website work on Netscape 3 (i think 3, maybe 4), as the Bodleian computers only have that browser. Bah.

[identity profile] wimble.livejournal.com 2005-02-24 12:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Subject to the provisos I mentioned the other night at Templars, I'm interested. Whether you could stand me being "interested" in the same room is another question :)

[identity profile] wimble.livejournal.com 2005-02-24 12:13 pm (UTC)(link)
You're right: Sunday Brunch. But we stayed after you two (let's continue not counting [livejournal.com profile] onebyone) went, so it turned into evening :)

[identity profile] ar-gemlad.livejournal.com 2005-02-24 12:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm currently off the webmonkey wagon, I'm afraid, due to time constraints!

[identity profile] onebyone.livejournal.com 2005-02-24 11:52 am (UTC)(link)
You know how they say that the html is exactly the same for every version of the page?

It's a lie - there are hundreds of different versions, each of which has a different bit at the top which includes the relevant stylesheet. But the body element of each page is identical except for the href of the link to the stylesheet itself, so they're quite close to their claim.

You could make them all the same by specifying every stylesheet in link tags in the html, and then using an HTTP header to indicate which is the preferred style. Of course that would be pretty ugly because it could get to be a very long list, but unfortunately W3C did not provide us with a standard for referencing stylesheets other than in the HTML itself. Shower of bastards. And the link to the stylesheet might still be impossible.

My favourite website is probably http://www.wikipedia.org. They're also somewhat hepped up on CSS.

[identity profile] onebyone.livejournal.com 2005-02-24 12:31 pm (UTC)(link)
W3C did not provide us with a standard for referencing stylesheets other than in the HTML itself

Ooh, it turns out that isn't true. You can do it, but only using imaginary versions of HTTP: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/present/styles.html#h-14.6

[identity profile] wimble.livejournal.com 2005-02-24 04:40 pm (UTC)(link)
The w3c's own style sheet page does avoid the particular complaint that you're making.

[identity profile] geeveecatullus.livejournal.com 2005-02-24 12:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Hi, you appeared on my friendsfriends list so, you propbably don't know me :-)
Thanks for that link; it's awesome.
And exactly what I need for a project I am working on right now.
(templates)

One of my favourite sites is http://www.beautifuldreamscompany.net.

It's done by a good friend of mine, and he changes his design quite regularly or adds new stuff, so it is always interesting.

I also like this one, for laughs:
http://rinkworks.com/stupid/

[identity profile] wimble.livejournal.com 2005-02-24 01:49 pm (UTC)(link)
'Cos people being stupid with computers can be passed off as work?

Yeah, I can see that :)

[identity profile] wimble.livejournal.com 2005-02-24 02:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Your second paragraph is backward (although I sense the splutterings of HERA in there): non-techincal people are never required to listen you explaining technical things. This is always true. And since it's the non-technical people who get to assess your job description, yer buggered. Personally I recommend surruptiously pressing their shift key five times in a row... :)

Which is why such sites as rinkworks exist. To prove to the technical people that the non-technical people are wrong. Of course, the problem is that the non-technical people will never see why it's funny, and never read (and learn) from it.

[identity profile] bateleur.livejournal.com 2005-02-24 02:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Nice site, though it's a bit much to claim most of those pages as triumphs of CSS when really it's just chunks of pre-rendered art.

My favourite website is Wikipedia too, but since [livejournal.com profile] onebyone has already nominated it, I don't need to.

So, since the idea is to introduce people to cool things they might not have seen, I nominate: The Internet Ray-Tracing Competition ! Amazing techniques for graphics geeks combined with eye candy for everyone.

[identity profile] smiorgan.livejournal.com 2005-02-24 02:46 pm (UTC)(link)
www.badgerbadgerbadger.com

[identity profile] onebyone.livejournal.com 2005-02-24 03:34 pm (UTC)(link)
The author prefers the use of www.badgerx3.com, since according to him the hosts of badgerbadgerbadger.com took the domain back and are cashing in on the banner advertising revenue.

[identity profile] smiorgan.livejournal.com 2005-02-24 03:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for that, in future I'll get my badger fix from an ethical source.

[identity profile] thebratqueen.livejournal.com 2005-02-24 03:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Got any book and/or website recs for someone who's interested in teaching themselves CSS?

[identity profile] onebyone.livejournal.com 2005-02-24 03:39 pm (UTC)(link)
If you're tech-tolerant, the W3C specification isn't bad: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/

[identity profile] thebratqueen.livejournal.com 2005-02-24 03:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Might be a smidge more advanced than I'm ready for, but it's a place to start so thanks! =)

[identity profile] thebratqueen.livejournal.com 2005-02-24 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks!

[identity profile] thebratqueen.livejournal.com 2005-02-24 04:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm always open to learning new stuff, and I think CSS should be the next thing on my list. Any links or whatnot you have would be fab. =)